Magnesium Treats Fibromyalgia Pain
Why would magnesium reduce your fibromyalgia symptoms, and how does the addition of an old drug, amitriptyline, improve its effectiveness? Similarities certainly exist between the clinical symptoms of fibromyalgia and magnesium deficiency, for instance, muscle pain, cramping, headaches, and poor sleep. But do fibromyalgia patients have low levels of magnesium? The answer is mixed because it depends on which part of the blood is sampled.
A study headed up by Selda Bagis, M.D., of Turkey, helps clarify the link between magnesium deficiency, your symptoms, and how supplementation therapy might play a role in fibromyalgia.*
First, Bagis looked at the magnesium levels in the serum (clear liquid fraction of the blood containing nutrients but no cells) and the red blood cells (loaded with oxygen and sugar needed by the muscles). She compared the results of fibromyalgia patients to that of age-matched healthy control subjects. She also checked to see if any symptoms corresponded to the magnesium levels in the serum and red blood cells.
Overall, Bagis found the lower the magnesium level, the greater the fibromyalgia-related symptoms. The symptoms associated with reduced magnesium in the serum and the red blood cells are listed in Table 1 below.
Low serum magnesium levels also corresponded to an increase in sleep disorders and gastric upset. This makes sense because magnesium is involved in the production of the sleep-promoting hormone, melatonin, and it is a known agent for settling the stomach (e.g., Milk of Magnesia). On the other hand, the red blood cells cannot provide oxygen and glucose fuel for powering muscle movements unless ample magnesium is present. So lower levels of this mineral in red blood cells would likely influence muscle symptoms, such as the number of tender points and the patient’s pain rating.
The second part of Bagis’ study was to compare the effectiveness of three different therapies for treating fibromyalgia (using three groups of 20 patients each): 300 mg of magnesium citrate, 10 mg of amitriptyline (an inexpensive antidepressant that works similar to Cymbalta), and the combination of the two therapies (300 mg of magnesium citrate plus 10 mg of amitriptyline). The trial lasted for eight weeks and all treatments were taken in the evening.
Antidepressants that increase both serotonin and norepinephrine at the nerve junction are often prescribed to treat pain because they supposedly work by bolstering the spinal cord’s pain fighting system. It would be important to know if a commonly prescribed medication eases different symptoms than magnesium or if the combo might work synergistically to reduce the impact of fibromyalgia. Table 2 shows a comparison of the three different treatment approaches.
“We found that magnesium supplementation was effective on reducing muscle tenderness and functional status,” says Bagis. “But amitriptyline plus magnesium supplementation was more effective on all parameters than either treatment alone.”
The sedating effects of amitriptyline likely led to the reported improvements in sleep; in addition to increasing serotonin, it also works like an anti-histamine. In turn, this may have improved next-day energy levels. However, Bagis cautions that this was a short-term study and the drug may lose potency over time. Magnesium, on the other hand, should not lose its effectiveness with continued use.
The use of magnesium at bedtime appears to be able to augment the impact of standard fibromyalgia treatments. In addition, Bagis found magnesium levels are lower in fibro patients compared to healthy controls, and these lower levels appear to be associated with many commonly reported symptoms for this condition.
“All of these findings support the fact that magnesium plays an important role in the development of fibromyalgia,” claims Bagis. Regardless of what your current treatments are, you might talk to your doctor about adding 300 mg per night of magnesium citrate. Although this dose produced minor gastrointestinal irritation in the study participants, keep in mind all fibromyalgia patients are different and you may need to adjust the dose accordingly.
* Bagis S, et al. Rheumatology Int [epub ahead of print] Jan. 22, 2012.
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia nearly 10 years ago after being referred to a rheumatologist at my request. I have taken 10mg of amitriptyline nightly since then and always found it to not only assist with sleep but also with muscular aches and pains in the morning in particular. At least 7 or 8 years ago I also started taking magnesium as I found I was getting a lot of muscular cramps and I have found this also to assist. My ability to sleep the whole night was starting to flag so I now also have a couple of cups of ‘sleep’ tea before retiring for the night and this has certainly improved the length and quality of my sleep. One other thing that I have taken for at least the past 8 to 10 years is resveratrol. I can honestly say with this group of supplements/medications that I am feeling the best that I have for at least 15 to 20 years. Reading up about fibro and trying things out for myself has certainly helped me personally so your findings are no surprise to me at all.
I am not able to take any anti depressants as my body reacts to them all.Amitriptalene makes me more sleepy.Have any of you tried 5HTP. I find at night it does help me sleep better.I also take 800mg of Motrin for times when my pain is really bad. I also have Intersticial Cystitis and IBS and hypoglycemia. I am you young with 2 little boys.I have also gone gluten free and it helps me.
RE: Intersticial Cystitis, was told in 90′s I should have surgery – I was lucky to find a doctor and nutritionist that told me about Clive Solomon in midwest who’d done studies on this type of bladder pain/spasm condition. I was put on Magnesium Citrate (not any other form ) and taken off all foods with high oxalate acids – amazing recovery. Fibro for 30 years – not easy
I have had Fibro since my teens ( 56 now) & Chronic Fatigue many years. I am now at my worst. I am gaining weight big time (steroids?) I am starting to have more problems walking, balance, cramping, bursing,high pain etc. I am taking magnesium at night. Any suggestions? I see a dr regular. want to start riding horses again as I enjoy it very much and have some. Just feel so awful all the time
This is exactley what worked for me although my dosage of amitriptyline is much higher. Approx. 100mg per night.
Thank you for publishing this. I notice a big difference if I stop taking my magnesium.
I also find it pronouncedly helpful when I take warm Epsom salt baths. Magnesium is a natural muscle relaxant and is absorbed through the skin.
I appreciate your website very much. Thank you!
I found that taking magnesium caused diarrhea…wonder if anyone has a remedy for that side effect?
It’s probably the form. Chelated magnesium can be taken at higher doses without that side effect, but if you are taking mag oxide that’s common.
Jeanne, I found that eating things higher in fiber helps put bulk in the bowel movement or try a lower dose of Magnesium.
hope you get some relief
Fiber is not an option if you have IBS. My gastroenterologist says that IBS is the only G.I. condition for which fiber is bad. Fiber/bulk irritates the intestinal wall and causes dirrhea. I found this out when I went on
the South Beach Diet and had IBS for 6 months and finally went to see the specialist.
About the diarrhea side effect…. me too so I just bought magnesium oil online (Ancient Minerals) to rub on skin so it bypasses the gut. Also comes in lotion and gel.
I also suffer from irritable bowel & interstitial cystitis in addition to fibro. It was my urologist who recommended adjusting magnesium. I found the only one I could take is Magnesium Glycinate. I usually take 100mg at night but if I get constipated my doctor said to take up to 400mg, which usually gives me diarrhea. You can also take 2X a day. So it could be dose related. I tried other brands & had trouble with all of them except this one. I think because most contain a lot of other ingredients. This one doesn’t. Good luck.
Hi Kris! I too have interstitial cystitis and would love to know the brand of the Magnesium Glycinate that helped you. There r so many additives to supplements we have to be so careful. Thanks for your reply.
Hi Kris! Would u let me know what brand of Magnesium Glycinate worked well for you. I don’t want to have to hunt for those pesky additives if u found one brand that is good for IC. Thanks for your reply.
Not much to do for Magnesium-related dirrhea that I know of except to reduce dose. I don’t usually have aproblem unless I get over 500mg.
Check the type of magnesium you are taking. Magnesium oxide will give you diarrhea. You must take magnesium citrate. You should also balance the magnesium with twice as much calcium citrate. Calcium has a binding action and can thereby prevent diarrhea.
I have always read that Magnesium should be taken with Malic Acid for Fibromyalgia muscle pain. Can anyone verify this? I believe I first read this in the Fibromyalgia Network! I take 400 mg of Magnesium and 800 mg of Malic Acid each day. (I will be switching this to a night dose, after reading this article.)I have had Fibro and Myofacial Pain Disorder since the 1980′s, and my muscle pain isn’t anywhere near as severe as it was, since I started taking Magnesium and Malic Acid.
I started Cymbalta six years ago and find that it helps a great deal with morning pain. Unfortunately, I seem to have some sort of allergy to magnesium in all forms which I discovered after a lot of trial and error. It actually increases my leg cramping as well as fatigue. Blood test shows significant magnesium level in the body. Also, potassium rich foods add to my RLS. Wondering if anyone else with FM has this problem?
Hi Jan, I have the same problem. My naturopathic Dr. tried Magneleveures on me and I have tried Mg. citrate before, and they seem to increase my pain. I have changed my diet, and have been taking omega- 3 oil, which for a while was helping a lot. Then she gave me those packets to take, and it was quite painful, so now when I take the Mg. Oxide (which is what I took before) , it hurts, too.
I have taken Malic Acid (a form of magnesium) for over 10 years. It was much more effective when I first took it than now as the pain level has escalated over the intervening years. I am also taking Amitriptyline, Tizanadine (muscle relaxer) and tramadol (pain killer) and still have sufficient pain that I can barely walk. Never mind get up and actually DO something. I will try resveratrol as I’m willing to take just about anything short of rat poison to find a medication that allowed me to get back to my previous level of activities!!!
Mary i am so disheartened to hear how much pain you are in. I can fully understand. My doctor put me on Lexapro about 6 years ago and i could tell a difference almost overnight. Please don’t give up. I take it in the morning, along with the same two meds you mentioned at night.
Magnesium did not seem to help, except with my migraines. What has made a world of difference for me is Savella, which I started on last August; within weeks my pain level decreased from 8 to 3 or 4, and my skin sensitivity is way less. The only thing it hasn’t helped with is the trigger points, and I do have some stomach upset with Savella. But I’m a lot better than I’ve been in years! And a bonus is I lost most of the weight Cymbalta put on. I’ll be praying you find some relief!
I also have a large amount of pain. I was diagnosised with FM 8yrs ago & it has been an up hill battle ever since. I found that changing Docs can be very helpful. A fresh set of eyes can’t hurt. I hope this helps.
Please keep in touch,
i got diagnosed 5 years ago and i am having some pain issues and am now experiencing trouble with my hands . i am having trouble gripping things and my hands cramp up. i found something that helps with that and its called remufan plus. i have been off of it for a week and can tell a difference
My experience with Magnesium has been that it knocks me out. I will sleep all day literally unable to stay awake.
I’m in the midst of testing to see if Magnesium Malate at 400 mg daily makes any difference to my muscle pain. The test I have devised is how long can I use the hair dryer with my left hand before I need a break. After nearly 4 weeks no improvement yet. I suspect that it’s going to be one of those “minor improvements and not worth the high expense” kind of supplement. Having read this article, I think I’ll do the same with Magnesium Citrite (after a few week break from the Magnesium Malate). I can’t add amitriptyline or cymbalta .. I go bananas with the tiniest dose. Good luck to all who try the magnesium and amitriptyline.
Can anyone offer me some advise. I live in the uk and am not up to date with any medications for fibro. I have had OA since 1999 and fibro since 2005. I go to pain clinic at the hospital once a year for a review and sometimes have pain relief injected into my joints, but that’s it. I don’t have anything for pain. I read my fibro network and e-mails from the network to gain all my information as my gp and specialist dont give me any info at all, or pain meds. My quality of life is very poor in that every inch of my body hurts, I can’t remember the last time I had quality sleep. I am almost housebound and only go out if someone comes with me. Can anyone suggest to me what I should ask my pain specialist and gp in order to improve my quality of life.
Jeannette, have a look on the website of FMA-UK. http://www.fmauk.org/
There’s a leaflet for health professionals on there as well as lots of information. They will also be able to direct you to your local support group where you can get more information and if they run meetings you can meet other people in your area with Fibromyalgia. Very often in the support groups you will find people who have gone through the same problems as you’re experiencing. Not all health professionals on the NHS are aware of fibromyalgia and thats why the support for patients is not great within the NHS.
I would start by finding a new primary. I have a wonderful primary and he is willing to help me try anything. I have not had much help with any antidepressants. I have to take hydrocodone and oxy for break through pain. I also take muslce relaxers and ambien. Magnesium makes me experience stomach upset and diarrhea. I take cell food drops to stay healthy and lots of acidopholis and as much vitamin C as I can without causing diarrhea. Everything else I was taking would make me so drowsy I could not even get out of bed. Cymbalta casued vertigo. My life has changed so dramtically. I don’t do much for enjoyment, but at least I can say I have tried everything I possibly can. I go for massage therapy for trigger point release and cranio sacral therapy weekly. My pain has improved but I have not found anything to give me my life back short of major narcotics which I am very careful with. Please find a new primary to work with you. Don’t give up. Sometimes you just need someone who is really listening to you and not blowing off your pain. Good luck Jeanette.
Beth- I related to your input on finding the right doc. I adore mine, however, it seems I am on so many drugs that give horrible side effects. My stomach extended out 4 inches, and endocscopy said I’m fine. Finally, I just stopped eating and after 5 months, lost the 25 pounds. I was reading the above…wondering about the many suggestions about Magnesium or amitriptyline or resveratrol or tramadol. This is the first time I have seen this sight, so have many questions. I am getting no relief from 6 drugs (some 3xday). The side effects have brought on IBS, nausea, dizziness, and headaches.
Jeanette, I too fnd your situation untolerable in this day and age. You definitely need to find a more sympathetic doctor. Persoanally, I was diagnosed with Fibro in the mid-80′s, and still try new things. Currently the most effective for me is LUNESTA 20mg at night with AMITRIPTALINE 5mg, and MAGNESIUM 250mg. CYMBALTA 60mg for the depression (does not seem to help my pain, but many say it does help theirs.) Also take TYLENOL WITH CODIENE 5mg as needed for flares.
I have been very fortunate in my primary care doctors. Since my pain and symptoms have been documented for many years, and my self management and use of the narcotic is very carefully chosen, I have never had anyone deny me pain relief.
Very best of luck to you. Do not give up in seeking relief.
I have had fibro since 2001 and now i am 51. I have hypertension high blood pressure and take meds for that. When I was told I had Fibro, my doctor pt me on Trazadone. I finally got sleep it was a miracle! I could finally sleep. Now over the years I still am on 2 antidepressants. I take trazadone and the anti depressants at night a about 30 mins. before I go to bed. I am also on clonazepam 1mg and i take this at night with my other meds and i found i sleep even better now. Having fibro you it is a must to get a good full night sleep is the key to helping you feel better. I am now up to 150 mgs on trazadone over the years i have had to work myself up to that where i can sleep and this helps me so much. Everyone’s body is different. Do not give up. The Trazadone really helps me sleep good. It is an old medicine. We make look ok on the outside,but it is what is going on on the inside and how we hurt all the time. More doctors need to be educated in this illness. They think you are a complainer, and to them it is not real. Again I hope you may try some of the things I am doing, maybe it will help you. It has been along journey to get where I am today. Paula
I also experience diarrhea with magnesium. It is almost intolerable without taking more meds to solve THAT symptom.
Is Amitriptyline only available by prescription? Is a Magnesium over-the-counter supplement OK, or is everyone talking about a prescribed med? Thanks.
Amitrypiline or Elavil is a prescribed med but Magnesium isn’t. I use a supplement called Fibro M which has 60 mg mag plus malic acid and a few other things. I take 5 capsules every night and it does help.
Hope you find help soon.
I have taken Amitriptylene for the past year, and calm(Mgnesium) with Sleepy time Extra tea for over 5 years. The Amitriptylene was giving me nightmares, so I gave it up and will stick with the Calm and the tea. I am done with prescription meds-except the vicodin for the flare ups. I am going the natural route to see if I can get some relief that way. I have already been on all the prescriptions out there except Savella, and I am not anxious to give another one a try. I know that they work for some people, I am just not one of them. Good luck everyone!
Lorri- I sometimes have nightmares from diff drugs too/ I just wanted to say I take Gabapentin– (generic nuerontin) this was suggested to me by my pharmacist years ago– and my dr was happy to give it a try– i have been taking it for about 10years– it is a miracle drug for me — I could not function without it.
Susan, Yes amitriptyline is only available with a prescription (at least in the US it is). Magnesium over the counter works just fine.
I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia on 7/2008. I have had many ups and downs as far as medications are concerned. I am currently on Amitriptyline, Wellbuturin, Magnesium and Norco. In all honesty, the pain level hasn’t changed much. I just don’t know what to do anymore.
When I first started taking Magnesium nearly 10 yrs ago, I too had severe diarrhea accompanied by abdominal pain. I was taking 1000 mg twice a day. However, determined to get relief, I continued with the therapy. After about a month my body began to get used to the dosage and the diarrhea and bowel pains began to fade. Simply put, TIME and patience was what was needed for the magnesium therapy to work for me. After starting cymbalta, then Lyrica, and finally Savella therapy, I reduced my mag intake down to 500 mg twice daily. I am an avid supporter of magnesium supplements for FMS.
My chiropractor recommended massaging magnesium oil into all major muscle groups as opposed to taking mag orally. It is better utilized by the body when it doesn’t have to go through the digestive process. This also prevents the digestive upsets and diarrhea caused by taking magnesium in the therapeutic doses needed to work.
I did not know of magnesium oil _ I can’t take a significant amount of mag withiut getting diarhea which lasts all day and I work full time so not an option though calcium does help me some. Where do you get the magnesium oil I have never seen it anywhere– but then I was not looking for it. I just found this web site today -I am so excited and hope you are all feeling well today.
I, too, live in the uk and have recently gone down the fibro route after putting up with a ton of symptoms, my doctor has been really helpfuland put me on codeine and naproxen as having 4 children ( 2 of which are special needs ) I can’t let the pain take control , go back to your doctor and ask why you can’t have these meds as it’s really commonly prescribed for fibro, don’t put up with it see another doctor if you have no luck .
I have dealt with fibro and chronic fatigue since in the 70′s way before there a name for either condition. I have tried about every treatment out there. I just went through one of the worse times in a long time in December and January. Things are better, pain tolerable It is like turning a light switch on and off. I am now 76 and guess I will just keep dealing with the wickedness of fms and cf. Good luck to all of you who are suffering with this, hope someday, there will be a cure or as least better relief. sincerely Dot
I take perscribed hydrocodone which with me caused chronic constipation for 10 yrs.
Because I saw on the Dr Oz Show that magnesium was a good supplement (for what I dont remember now) I recently (6-8 wks ago) started taking magnesium 400mg capsules 2x qd. It evened out the issue above. I also noticed a little less fibro pain not knowing people use it to treat fibro pain until I read this article.
I do not take amitriptyline although my doctors have suggeted it to me. I strongly believe in stretching every day. When I am in pain & I stop what I’m doing whether, it be cleaning my home or just sitting. If I stretch it helps alot on decreasing the pain level. To me that is amazing. Best of luck to you all.
Wendy stretching helps me too- the people I work with think I am crazy LOL I wil stop and stretch no matter who is looking lol- Massage therapy on a regular basis helps me alot too. If your ins wont cover it -find a massage therapy school. student massages usually range from 10 to 25 $ for 60 min massage. not as good as professional fully trained massage but still helps alot.
I live in Brazil, with fibro since 2003;I took Cymbalta, Effexor and others with no results. In 2006 I started to take amitriptyline 25mg and melatonin 1,5 at bed time, chelated magnesium 200 mg twice daily and malic acid 50 mg. Good results. I feel much better
Of course, add to this hydro gymnastic, walking, Yoga and meditation!
I appreciate very much all your information. Congratulations for your work Kristin.
Raquel — You go girl-!! just reading all the things you do makes me need to go lay down-lol — I have been have a flare and the worst part of it for me right now is the fatigue- some days when I don’t have to work I never get out of bed, I know it is a phase though – I have been here before- it always gets better. And then it gets worse again. Its a fine balancing act for me. I imagine it is some of you too.
Soft cuddly hugs for all of you
I find that balancing magnesium intake with calcium helps reduce diarrhea. I tweak the amounts of each as needed for digestive problems.
Note:. take calcium supplements separately from other supplements or medications – calcium can block absorption.
Glad to hear about this. Have had fibro since 1989 and have been on Amitriptyline, cyclobenzadrine (muscle relaxant), small amount of ambien and melatonin. I have taken malic acid in the past but had put it aside and on other meds. My primary doctor recently decided I should stop taking the Lipitor 20 mg. as that could be contributing to my pain. Hurrah…in just a few short weeks some of my pain subsided, (had been taking either tylenol or advil) but I then started on more of the Calcium and Magnesium supplement taking three times/day…so that becomes 700 mg of calcium and 300 mg. of magnesium. Believe those that have stomach or diarrhea problems might try taking it with calcium. It is my understanding that calcium will not be assimilated unless you take magnesium with it. I still have insomnia problems but hoping this new regimen will start kicking in with time. I sure do understand your pain and frustration. I have also started walking again and working on a better nutrition agenda and hope that will help me sleep. Thanks for your comments and for the Fibro network.
I was planning on buying magnesium & malic acid together. Right now i am on magnesium oxide. The only med i am on is topamax., originally for hormonal migraines but my neurologist just began raising the dose to help with the fibromyalgia. My neurologist just set me up for a consult with a rheumatologist as well as ultrasound appointements. He is getting me my own TENS unit too. I am thinking of going on CoQ10.
I was diagnosed in 1994 and have lived with Fibro a long time. At first I tried all kinds of drugs desperate to get my life back. I found I actually got worse as the drugs seemed to cause other problems. I eventually stopped most of them, accepted my condition, and made lifestyle changes. I pace myself better, I try not to stress myself out or worry too much. I accept my limits but at times I still push too hard. I try to eat better, exersize daily especially walking. I keep my sleep and meal patterns consistant. I also think my hysterectomy improved my fibro and I am mostly drug free now. I use hot packs daily and go for massage therapy about once a month. Everyone is different and what works for me might not work for others, but there was a time I thought my life was over. I am doing better than ever now, and live a full and happy life. I make the most of the good days, rejoice at the great days, and tolerate the bad days. Good luck to finding what works for you!
I’ve had Fibro since 2007. I started Savella in 2010 and I was pretty happy with it until the end of 2011. I started having more devastating pain, not sleeping, and tired all the time with pain. I began Magnesium and my sleep is so improved and so is my anxiety. When I skip a dose, I am miserable.
I take savella, skellaxin , and the magnesium and I am sleeping so well.
Thank goodness. Lets Not Give up Hope! Just keep trying and learning about how to take care of yourself. We need to hang in there despite how sucky this FM is for us..
Have a great February.
Started taking magnesium 250mg years ago for leg cramps at night. Also, took Amitriptyline 10 mg for years at the same time. I have not noticed any difference in “fibro” pain, but it did certainly stop the leg cramps.
Does anyone out there with Fibro experience a burning pain in their body? Mine seems to be in the skin and can move all over–sometimes back, chest, arms, legs. My doc says this is not uncommon but I never hear of anyone else having it. Anyone heard of it? Good luck to everyone. This condition is a real challenge.
I too have burning pain. At first I took neurontin, but after two years and ever increasing doses, I got nothing from it and weaned off. I began lyrica, 2X daily. Yes, there are side effects, but without it the burning is unbearable. After 6 or more years taking it, I seem to be stable. I would say it reduces the electric shocks by 90% and the burning by about 75%. I take it at bedtime and can usually get to my morning dose without being awakened by the pain. This is my body, and I do take a lot of other things too. Whatever you need, you are entitled to.
Hi Leslie, I too have skin sensitivity. It’s called allodynia which means other pain. I can remember one time my scalp was so sensitive I couldn’t touch it. Sometimes I can hardly bear to have my clothes touching my skin. When this happens I take Tramadol and that seems to do the trick plus rest somewhere warm and comfortable. When I can tolerate it I have an aromatherapy massage which is very calming.
Me too, can’t wear cloths. I wear shorts 90% of the time. Undercloths hurt the most. I now wear mens underwear and an ahh bra. Seems to work for me. Shoes, socks, coats, heavy stuff I can’t wear. Sometimes just in my room with a light night gown. The worst part is family don’t believe me.
I too get burning. I use goldbond cream. Its awful the burning, cause there isnt any rash. Funny HuH.
I too experience periods of my skin stinging and burning. It seems to go along with a period of great pain subsiding. It is like the last symptom before I get relief. It can be so bad at times that the subtle pressure of my pants leg touching my legs is very painful. Wish I could help with a solution.
I take at least one B-100mg Complex vitamin every day. That and 400mg of CoQ 10 seem to really help with joint pain and swelling, and lack of energy. I also take Ambien for sleep and Magnesium for muscle spasms.
I have found that Lidoderm patches work great for “skin burning” issues and Voltaren gel is good for muscle cramps and joint pain.
I am so happy to have found this site. I have struggled With FM for the past 25 years. I am 42 years old and was just diagnosed Oct. 2011. I experience EVERY symptom that has been mentioned on here on a daily basis. Some days are unbearable and some are better but I never have a full good day. For 2 years now I have had this new symptom of extreme pain around right rib. Could it be shingles?
If you add calcium and potassium you won’t have diahrreah. Or eat a couple of bananas – that’s your potassium. Might even get constipated.
I have struggled with FM since 1990. I was not able to tolerate amitriptyline. I take 5mg (half a 10 mg tablet) of cyclobenzeprine (Flexeril) in the early evening to help with quality sleep and pain. Previous studies reported in the FMNewsletter showed that less is often better than more for FM (2-3 mg being the best dose for many people). I have minimal problems waking up in the morning if I take it 12- 13 hours before I want to wake up. Each person needs to start low on many meds used for FM and tailor it for their system. In addition, it can take up to 2 weeks to know if many medications are helping.
As a dietitian, I know it is important to adjust the dose of Mg to reduce GI problems. It helps with the mild constipation caused by the 50mg tramadol (Ultram) I take 3 times a day for pain. Magnesium competes for absorption with calcium and other minerals so it is important to eat/supplement calcium and vitamin D earlier in the day or evening.
Magnesium can interfere with throid replacement medications as well as other medications and supplements. It is recommended to search “magnesium-drug interactions” and choose a reputable site to look for any cautions about taking magnesium. It is also recommended to check with a medical/pharmacy professional before taking anything, including magnesium.
I experience burning pain. At first it was in my upper /middle back. It would come and go for years. Also, burning spots in my arms.
It seems better now that I am doing yoga and have made many lifestyle changes. Eating healthier (no processed foods) basically a yogi diet.
I developed fibromyalgia seven years ago and after consulting numerous rheumatologists I did mot get much help from them. One doctor put me on Lyrica at night and it gradually helped with the severe pain in my hips and legs. I also take calcium tablets at night. I bought a TENS machine and that also helps alleviate pain in sore areas. For daily pain relief I take Tramal 200SR in the mornings. I also take magnesium and CoQ 10 daily. For many years I could not even go for a walk, but lately I can go for short walks, avoiding hills, which cause severe pain, making my BP shoot up.
Fibromyalgia has greatly affected my life, but I hope, one day there will be a cure for this painful condition. I find the most helpful info on your website. Thank you.
I have cramps, tingling, stiffness, tender/trigger points and numbness and I can’t tolerate walking continously for more than 15 minutes. I tried Malic Acid, Magnesium, and I am on Neurontin. I get massages every now and then to release my trigger points, and heated pool exercises. My legs tend to get really stiff, so I tried Magnesium Oil plus Frankincense or coconut oil on my legs. It seemed to alleviate the symptoms to some degree. I have read that Magnesium oil is better absorbed by the skin, rather than taking it by mouth. So I would imagine that even the Epsom Salt soaks would be beneficial
Try to move at least a little each day, because not moving also increases your pain as does moving too much. Water therapy is also helpful. You actually work harder by exercising in the water than if you would do it on land so there is a greater benefit in doing that plus you don’t even notice just how much you are moving/exercising bc of the water’s properties. Everyone is different and reacts differently to all treatments. You just need to find the right combination for you to at least get your pain at a tolerable level. It is possible! I am proof of that! Never ever give up no matter how bad things may seem at the moment! Hope this helps! Wish the best for everyone!
I am taking magnesium and 10 mg of Amitryptiline and have been doing so for awhile amitryptiline helps my sleep, and I guess compared with not taking it, it is better, but I have been in a “flare” that has lasted 2 weeks right now, and nothing seems to help. I do all the right things: vegetarian healthy diet, no, or very low alcohol, no aspartame or nutrasweet, I swim and do yoga regularly, I have started breathing exercises, and I try and relax, but other than very slow swims. Sorry… this is a bit more than the response to the magnesium post, but suffice to say, tried everything, including magnesium, and when I get a flare, not much one can do….
I came across this thread while researching creatine as a supplement to help. It looks very promising. But I wonder about a vegetarian diet supplying enough creatine for someone with FMS , since its source is meat and fish. You might want to do some research into this.
I have been taking 400mg of magnesium with zinc along with L-Arginine 5oomg when the pain has been far beyond Norco to control. this mostly before it rains. I too have been on different meds thru the years and have tried to be as knowledgeable about FM as possible. Thanks to this newsletter I was able to share info with my elderly aunt when she was diagnosed with FM last year. I now avoid caffeine and I have found that I rarely have muscle cramps anymore.
I feel for all of you.I was diagnosed with fibro in 2006 & it seems to be getting worse as the years are going by. I do take a Magnisium pill every day call Fibro M (a natural product), I take cymbalta, & Lyrica (300mg). I used to take others too including nortriptyline (a newer version of amitrip). I found I was taking way too many meds so I thought I could get rid of some.
I don’t see anyone here mentioning DIET. It has been the 1 thing that significantly reduced my pain to almost no pain! With the info in these books I took back my life after 6 yrs of horrific FM pain! Idiots Guide to Plant Based Nutrition, Engine 2 Diet, and Eat to Live. Magnesium oil spray (just after showering for max absorbption-don’t take pills) & strength training have also been helpful.
I agree with diet.I have tried to be gluten free as much as possible for 2 years now and it really helps me.I cannot take any anti-depressants at all.I take Lyrica 50mg 3 times a day and sometimes 800mg Motrin if my pain gets too bad.I have also joined Curves too which has helped a lot.I also take adrenal complex,resveratol,B12,Vit D,mag.These have really helped too.I have also tried 5HTP too.
I have had fibromyalgia for twenty years. I do a lot of homeopathic stuff. I laso take Tylenol 3.About three years ago I developed a severe itch around my ankles. Nothing helped. I scratched so much the skin is now damaged. This past year I started taking a homeopathic prep. called Hypericum. If I start itching I take it and the itch stops.
Has anyone tried vitamin B-12 injections?
I take cymbalta, couldn’t tolerate amytriptaline. It help with the pain. I am on flexeril which I take at night and ultram at night for pain.I was allergic to salvella so I couldn’t tell you about that. I take vit b 12 injections because my b12 was actually low, and vit D for low levels of it. Recently I have added coq10 and B6(for roscacia) and have noticed an improvement in energy &.
Has anyone had luck with Lyrica?
A simple 2-4 hr antecdote on a specific area is ice for 10 min. To make it 99% proof get a Rx of Voltaren Gel and apply too. Unfortunately, ice doesn’t work for me unless at least 8+hrs between uses.
Oh, and YES, against contrary belief, not only am I a male with Fibro/CFS but watched nutrition and fit before this life altering bizarre ordeal.
Dan,I’ve 2 kids with fibro,girl,32,diagnosed at 22& a son 21,diagnosed at 16. about Lyrica,my girl tried it for a year.very severe side effects,& takes weeks to wean onto. There’s a period of over a week when she couldn’t even drive because she felt too disoriented,tried to give fair chance.gained 30 lbs on it had worn sz 8 dress when started.Did NOTHING for pain or fatigue.
I was diagnosed with idiopathic anemia a while back and will look into the low magnesium red blood cell theory.
I really hope this site sends me an email directly when someone replies regarding my previous question about peoples thoughts on Lyrica.
Over and out……
I have been experiencing pain in my hips, thighs, shins and knees for the past 6 months. I spoke with my doctor and he did not even mention FM. I was just on a cruise and went for a massage and was directed to the acupunture doctor. He was the one who said I could have FM. Today, I looked up FM and came to your website. What an eye opener. I think I have found my problem. Thank You
I get burning pain in different parts of my body. ALL parts of my body. I believe they are nerve pain or what we fibros call nerve pain. I have found a homeopathic oil that has made a HUGE difference in my most sharp pain. You can get it at Amazon or I get it at CVS dot com as CVC always sends coupons and has them on sale. It’s called Neuragen the 1.7 oz size is about 30 It lasts a while though.
RE: Magnesium causing ‘diarhea’. No, too much Magnesium taken at one time causes loose stools.
My simple solution is taking small doses of Magnesium several times a day or adding a daily amount to a half gallon of water to drink through the say. I use Milk of Magnesia as my Mg source for about ten years, to my benefit.
I wouldn’t touch Cymbalta or Lyrica or another SSRI or SNRI or seizure drug with a ten foot pole. Not after agreeing to Paxil by a rheumatologist in 1997 and another in 1998 and experiencing significant side effects. Plus, I watched the adverse effects of the seizure drug on my son and the difficulty in withdrawing him from it without provoking additional seizures.
Response to Dan’ question: I was prescribed Lyrica 2 times a day when I was first diagnosed with fybormyalgia. I believe it has worked for me. I’ve had two carpal tunnel surguries (no more possible). I also have been diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis. My latest problem has been a bad lower back. No help with that yet. Life is a pain in the butt (just a substitution). Age is 67.
1st reading on this. I have discovered how fortunate I am that I had doctors who treated the problem, saving me years of pain. Now that I am 84 I find that it is more difficult to get moving – all the old trigger points have flared up. Some weeks I sleep about two hours or so a night – the best I do is 6. I just keep going. There is no cure. There is no miracle.
I Would Like to know if there is a differance between amitripyline and elavil? I Have been told they react differently.
Amitriptyline is the generic name for Elavil, the brain name of the drug. The brand lost its patent a long time ago, so most people just call the drug by its generic name. There can be some small differences between generics and brand drugs. There are certain standards that all generics have to meet. If you have specific questions, I would ask your pharmacist. Good luck! Kristin
Many of you have mentioned different supplements, especially asking about malic acid and magnesium- I have always heard that they tend to be low in people with fibro and that it is helpful to supplement them both verses one or the other.
There is a medication that used to be prescription but now over the counter that helps keep things regulated called miralax. I’m not sure but your doc might still beable to prescripe it generic?? I have IBS and take Amitzia twice/day which helps me from going from the extremes of constipation & diahrea.
My doctor just took me of of amitriptyline, when I saw her for an unrelated issue. I’ve been on it for about 18 years, but she said that new research has shown it to be problematic. Does anyone know about this? I’m taking Ambien now but it does not sound like a long-term solution.
18 years? My father has been on it for 30. Anything can be problematic for anyone. But my guess is, if it were a problem for you, you’d know by now.
Amitriptyline is great for the itching, as well as other paresthesia issues at very low doses. It also encourages restful sleep. Ambien is not for long term. My mom is 82 and also has fibro. It’s not about a miracle cure, but quality of life.
I was diagnosed with FM several years ago. I recently tried combination supplement malic acid/magnesium. I had a big reduction in leg/foot pain. However, I developed severe nausea & reflux. I tried decreasing the dose but, those symptoms remained. HELP! Any suggestions(I plan to try the magnesium oil as suggested in a previous post).